Hello Zeitgeist UK members,
I just want to explain a little about what brought me here before I give you details of how I can genuinely help any Zeitgeist member create some financial leverage. What I mean is, it's obviously more difficult to survive these days financially than ever before, and it's going to get harder as the government enforce more and more taxes, stripping away our liberties in the bucket load. So I have a short term solution to assist claiming some money back.
Without a doubt I would live in The Venus Project tomorrow, and have no love or inspiration for the pursuit of money. The fact remains though we are living currently in a monetary system, and in order for any of us to continue to make a difference we need the paper to survive and help us fight the very thing we presently depend on.
My idea to help The Zeitgeist Movement is to show any member or group who wishes to raise money for a project, or simply help an individual ZG member survive any financial problem you may be facing right now. I have the ability to show you exactly what I do myself to avoid having to play the game with the man. Initially though I have some information which is very useful and could make a positive difference.
In a nutshell you can raise between a £1000 to £2000 in a couple of months with little effort, and nothing would give me more happiness to know I helped a movement I truly have strong beliefs about and a real passion for making The Venus Project a reality.
If you're interested in knowing more it won't cost you a penny and never will with me. I will give you all the time I have available to help you raise this money completely free of charge. My payment is the satisfaction of knowing I helped something I talk about everyday when I am helping others wake up to the world and themselves. Just message me and I will explain and get you started. I've been as honest as I can be about my myself below and what brought me to where I am today.
I've taken time to write this to hopefully show you I am genuine and not trying to sell or promote anything. I'm here with a purpose, and that is to create some financial leverage using my own research which I have tested extensively, and I know works exactly as I can demonstrate to any willing member.
One final point, I have asked permission to put this post up from the web team who can see I have a valid point, but as I am obviously offering to show any member or group a way of making money to help Zeitgeist which in essence is not what the final goals of Zeitgeist are about, the web team wish to monitor the success or response to what I am offering. So please if you benefit and use this free money for the good of Zeitgeist, let them know or post a comment on here, an email to me, whatever. It would be great to hear what you think about it.
Here is my story:
After spending the last few years evenings and any free time away from daily grind figuring a way to quit the day job, I finally did it roughly this time last year.
There was always something inside telling me it's just elaborate scam, and each day I forced myself into the office to endure the plethora of verbal cod shit around me just confirmed this. I could feel myself literally getting closer to the end of my tether.
I didn't understand why I had this nagging voice permanently telling me to find another way to live without being a wage slave, and to pay little or no tax to the fake government. My colleagues all seemed very satisfied with the old 9-5 treadmill, and my parents are from the school of work hard all your life and be proud of the fact you killed yourself slowly for the privilege, so it has always been a real pressure for me to justify to people how I would spend my free time researching being self employed from home. Although now I care not what anybody thinks of me, I just want action for a better world.
The aim at the time was to give myself space and freedom to be myself and not what is expected by society.
Locked away spending my time reading and testing endless amounts of useless systems for online work from home ideas which not one single thing worked as it was sold to me. Attending seminars and literally trying every scam and rubish out there to see if anything really existed that could give me anything close to the life I knew I could feel was in reach. Nothing fancy, just the basics, time to feel alive, awake, and have love for the world instead of the bitterness I could see around me.
While my work colleagues and friends were all getting along with the mediocrity with on the surface enthusiasm, playing the office politics to climb the slippery pole and laughing at the bosses crap jokes. I simply wasn't interested or inspired by anything to do with working for the corporate cock shaft. Was there something wrong with me?
According to the doctors, well yeah I was depressed and they tried to throw pills at me to suppress the fact I was bored out of my mind. There are two types of drugs, the ones that enhance your feelings and give you an altered and sometimes higher state of conciousness, and the other which just dull your feelings or pain. The first kind have a use, the second kind just detach you from reality in order to cope with the shock of your life as it really is.
They can have you being a good little productive person in no time, no matter how boring your job they make it palatable. I had no interest in anti depressants, I'd tried them very briefly years ago, but stopped after a short time as they just numbed me to everything, that's not life in my opinion.
In order to appreciate the sweet we need to understand the sour. It's what makes us human. It's because life today is so depressing that we all feel we need to jack toxins into our body to escape the cruel reality. I prefer to use the uplifting toxins if I use any at all these days, avoiding the soul numbing ones.
In addition to the downer drugs offered you have the library of self help bullshit designed to distract you from the real truth. So many self destructive religious books, or wish for a better life manuals for ultimate disappointment are pushed forward as the meaning of life by self professed guru's which do more harm than good without any regard for the damage done. I read the majority and found nothing but false hopes and lies promoted for personal gain or credit.
I needed something that cut through the veil which I could sense hanging over my head blocking my vision of life and our real existence on this planet. This arrived purely by accident when I picked up a book which had been bought for me years earlier by an old friend. It was a book all about how the rich educate their children in comparison to the middle and lower classes. To make money work for you to create more money. Not through pitiful banking investments, but through shrewd money management.
This opened up a divide in many ways, and showed me how the rich think. As much as capitalism sickens me to my core, I wanted a way out of the routine not for self fulfilling glory and debauched riches, but to give me some power to explore what is really going on. Possibly even make a difference to others and help unplug them from the matrix.
Also at the same time I had been playing around with all kinds of sports trading systems, using sophisticated trading software which using my own techniques I had managed to carve a second income which was starting to increase incrementally day by day. Something I researched and put together myself, which I tested and could actually trust.
I began finding the right books and internet articles to help me realise how I could use what I was learning to help others in my situation. The situation being, feeling trapped in the day job and knowing there really is more to life, but not necessarily knowing what. Well that was where I was then.
Watching more and more documentaries like the Corporation, Michael Moore stuff (even though I know he has his faults he served a purpose for me then), I found Alex Jones who I guess was responsible for finally waking me up properly, Michael Tsarion who's research astounds me, revisited the late great Bill Hicks who I used to watch when I was young and less tainted by the world, and so many other great minds I covered which helped me start using both sides of my brain.
I've absorbed and processed so many fantastic independent works over this last year, I can only thank each and every writer, comedian and director for taking the time to show me something about the world that would be hidden from me by the mainstream propaganda the general public (including the old me) are force fed on a minute by minute basis. If anybody wants a good torrent site for downloading the latest and best conspiracy torrents, just let me know I'm happy to help if possible, and also would love to know if you have something to recommend to me as well please. I'm not interested in any credit for anything I do on here, I just want it to make a positive difference.
Then a few months ago I came across Zeitgeist Final Edition, and Addendum. Somebody I know who is like minded about the world recommended it to me. It glued together the information I had gathered over the last year, and gave it a reason for knowing it all.
I think it's fair to say, when you first actually watch something like Loose Change, or Architects of Control, or End Game for example, you feel sick, angry, a little scared and so many other emotions which just spill out when you accept that everything you thought you knew about politics and how the world is run is a lie and doesn't actually exist.
Zeitgeist gave me a hope that there are actually people organising themselves with the same beliefs as me. A truly supportive community of people who want nothing but a better world for everyone, but not going about making it happen by demonstrating or marching within the very system itself holding up pointless banners. Zeitgeist showed me they have a higher intellectual understanding of the systems that control us, enabling a totally different approach to the problem at hand, and also aligning themselves with the very exciting Venus Project.
As soon as I watched ZG 1&2 I knew I had to do something and use the information I have spent the last few years accumulating to some positive affect.
The way I freed myself from the system of the day job slave, is by learning how to sports trade online, and do this without any risk. I also came across another system for scalping free money offered by the corporations as part of a new member teaser offer, completely risk free. The teaser offers are supposed to get you hooked, but I just used them to help myself friends and family claim the free money totally risk free. They are also designed to supposedly give the corporations a chance to have you wager some of your own money and potentially lose, but I found a way around this also so you don't lose a penny, and win even when you lose.
This is how I have been paying my bills and reclaiming my days. What I hope to do over the coming years is show as many people who wish to learn the initial stage of the free money system, and use that money hopefully for ZG/Venus Project campaigns, exactly how to start getting this money. I will teach any ZG member, we are all on the same team stuck in the same shitty monetary system. So this is my two fingers to the establishment.
My time and systems are free to all ZG members, and this is a fact. If you wish to ask me questions just message me, or if you want me to get you started instantly, again just message me. If you have a project and need a specific amount of funding I can show you how to raise it between your group members. This isn't spam or somebody out to promote or sell you something further down the line. This is as real as the feeling you had when you watched ZG and decided you wanted to get involved. I am you and you are me, and we are together to make a difference. My skill right now is to help you raise money to continue to do this, or keep afloat long enough yourself so you can continue to make a contribution in some way.
For more information about me you can visit my blog which I try and update when I can. I will be doing more writing in 2010 and onwards though. You can see the change which occurred during last year in the few posts I have. It's http://www.rethinktheworld.co.uk The http://www.zerohype.co.uk website was set up at the first stage of learning how to trade and make money and is primarily there as an additional income for me. It's getting an overhaul early this year to incorporate the changes that have happened in my life, and to add more ways to make money in unique risk free ways. Anything I do is totally free of charge to any ZG member as stated, as I want to help make this a reality for us all, and this is my short term contribution to the madness we face.
I know I've written a lot, so I will wait for any questions or comments and will always be respectful and honest in my replies.
My first thought is that if you have found a way to make 'free' money from something because you have found a kind of loophole in somebodies system, surely it won't be long before that loophole will be closed. Especially if loads of people start exploiting that loophole? How long could it last?
Hi,
It is kind of a loophole in a way, but it spans many websites and has no way of being detected unless you out right call each company and tell them what you are doing. Which would be self defeating, and even then that would only affect the person calling and owning up. It's not breaking the law either, so it would just be a personal decision on their side to close your account, but again why would anyone waste their time and call to own up what they where doing. I know it sounds daft, but that is literally the only way to get caught.
In their eyes you are simply fulfilling the correct terms of your new member agreement, and they are happy to give you the free money, because as they see it you have a good chance of a) losing your own money, which I demonstrate with my system you have no chance of this, and b) you will enjoy their site so much you will become addicted, which of course you aren't there for that reason. You are just there to clinically make some money to use for either ZG or to create some leverage for yourself.
I set up the site an year ago, and I have helped hundreds of people do what I am offering ZG members and groups for free. Everyone who has done this has thanked me, and all earned what I have assured them they will. Not one company has even complained or even attempted to do anything about 'the loophole' because not only does it benefit you the individual, but if you see it as a hedge fund it benefits them just as much.
If all the Zeitgeist members did exactly what I am hoping they will and use this information to fund activism and help raise awareness, and each one did the same thing on the same day at the same time, the companies wouldn't even notice as they deal in millions of member sign ups worldwide each day, which makes it is impossible to track using my simple system. This system can only be done one time by one person at the same address, so it's a one off money generator.
My other work isn't a loophole system, it's something I do everyday and has freed me from the routine of work, which I'm currently in the middle of recording training videos and writing a new ebook for this, which I'm making available for ZG members as stated. I'm looking forward to showing as many people as possible a new way to survive the chaos.
I hope this addresses your question, if not let me know, and if you are interested I will send you a logon and password for my site and you can see what I am talking about. Thanks again.
Ryan Phillips
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As i understand the principle you go to one of the online gambling sites that say "give us 500 and we'll give you another 500 free" then you fulfill the terms of the free cash then retrieve the free 500 along with your original investment, then move on to the next site
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
You are almost there and I think you understand the broad strokes. For this initial free money system I'm hoping ZG members will benefit from, you do register at a gambling site and they expect you to wager to receive your free money, this in normal circumstances would create some risk of you losing your money. I show you how to wager without actually wagering with risk. Then when you have the free money in your account, you are expected typically to wager the free money again. Which I show you how to do this and guarantee a win regardless of whether you lose on the bookie site.
I'm a little unsure what you mean about giving me money, sorry, I never want any money from any member. I will give you the tools, ebook, video instruction, live online software that shows you where to place your free money bets and how much you will be reclaiming when the event ends win or lose you win, and a tailor made spreadsheet to calculate all this to make everything as quick and easy as possible, I don't want paying for this as I am part of the ZG Movement.
Thanks again for your interest and I hope you get in touch and benefit from this if you are looking to raise any capital for ZG or yourself.
Ryan Phillips
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actually you've simply misinterpreted what i said, every thing i said was in 2nd person (you go to the site, you get the free money, you withdraw the money from the site...) in never said I give you the money
As for not making a loss you can calculate the risk so you will always regain your money from the free money. If you input 500, lose 250 then get your free 500 you end up with 750 (a profit of 250). You will always gain so long as you don't lose more than the free amount
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Hi,
I was simply clarifying what you were saying as I wasn't sure. So now I know what you mean I understand. It's always better to ask as there is surely no such thing as a stupid question when answering these replies. So I'm glad you never meant what I thought you did.
I'm also not sure you really get what I mean as what you described is something a different, and it sounds like it involves some risk and doesn't quantify an exact return win or lose, which my system does with zero risk. You don't just go and register, claim free money and withdraw, it's a bit more involved than that, and requires some small amount of effort, and also my site helps you find the simplest route to being able to withdraw the money, as stated with no risk.
Rather than speculate whether you get what I mean or not, why not request a logon for my site and have a look for yourself. You will be surprised how much information I give and tuition to ensure people get the maximum benefit financially. I'm happy to discuss it further obviously, but feel we would advance the understanding if you just take a look.
Thanks again for your interest.
Ryan Phillips
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would if i could but even if i had the £15 membership fee which i don't, £15 would be one and a half weeks food as my only source of income is SAAS (Student Awards Agency for Scotland) which expects me to live of 350 per month while rent is 300 lol
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Aha, I understand. The student life is tough financially.
Although you do know, and I have stressed this fact extensively, that it is free for you. No £15 charge. You are a ZG Member, so I don't charge any ZG members as I hope it will help you, or possibly contribute to a project you are doing for ZG. If you want access just send me a private email and I will email the login info back to you.
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Ryan Phillips
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That was supposed to be a smiley, not a horror face, I don't know what happened. lol.
Ryan Phillips
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Hello Zero
This post is great :clap: , thank you for taking the time to get your idea across to us with reassuring heart felt communication . I too have been there 22 times before and two self made high stress businesses but the accusation of wealth seemed unimportant to me while people are dieing all around me to profit the few .Your proposal interests me greatly as my own ZG project takes shape like a lump of clay on a potters wheel with use of my own skills I can keep my outgoings to a minimal but the councils laws on distribution of Free printed matter equates to high profits for them and diminished rights of freedom for us .Though its down to interpretation and i can get away with it for a while they will close the loop hole and i will be back finding a way to pay the fees they force on us. Im willing to learn all you have to offer
Cheers Crafter
Hello Crafter,
Thanks for your kind words and interest in my post/offer. I would be more than happy to help you as promised, and know you will make some money towards your worthy project. It sounds very interesting, and something I would be keen to look at if you have a website.
I will send you your logon details as a private message, and if you have any problems or questions don't hesitate to ask.
Good luck making money to fund your project, and keep me posted how you get on if you can please.
Kind Regards
Ryan Phillips
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This looks interesting and worth exploring, and I'm also pleased you've been allowed to post about this kind of thing too!
Thanks Nanos,
I appreciate that, and I've just sent you your login info. My case for posting this is, we are still in the monetary system, and as much as we all hate it on here, we need it to fight it.
So I hope my simple system is useful to you.
Let me know how you get on.
Regards
Ryan Phillips
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I have to say I am interested Ryan..I am on the dole and it's making me feel so depressed, every job that I do apply for has hundreds of applicants and at 57 years old I don't seem to have much hope. I am lucky if ever get as far as an interview.
Hello,
Thanks for your post, I am pleased to give you the information I have and I truly hope you use it to alleviate some of the pressure you are under.
The employment situation at the moment is beyond ridiculous with the government sector and banking jobs increasing, and smaller businesses being swallowed up by the failing economy. No new information there though for anybody on here, but I do empathise.
I will send you a private message with your login information to my website, and you can get going earning yourself some extra 'tax free' no need to declare to the job centre money. Once you have completed this I have other things to show you as a fellow ZG member, but for now this will work for you in the short term which fingers crossed may give you back hope in some way.
Kind Regards
Ryan Phillips
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Thanks Zero....I tried to figure it all out after you gave me the password.. but never having been interested in placing bets ....I found the system hard to understand. I think I am a bit too dim ..lol.
Hi,
I'm sure you aren't dim at all and it's more than likely the simplest thing you may be missing. If you want to let me know what you aren't getting about the system I'd be delighted to help you understand it all.
As you have no doubt seen from logging in to the site, I have tried to make the system available to everyone by creating the video tutorials, ebook and tools. So if you can, describe what you haven't quite understood and I will definitely be able to get you going with it.
After all, it does work 100% and you will make the money promised.
Kindest Regards
Ryan Phillips
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So am I right in saying once you're on these sites you have to an initial investment? But what if one is struggling to make ends meet in the first place (thanks to this wonderful (NOT!!) monetry sytem we live in)
normally we would have to pay £15 for membership but he has made it free for all members of the ZM (pm him for the username and password)
you do need a "little" money to start off ~£50 but that £50 will quickly become 100>175>250>400>750>1000...
unfortunately my income is from SAAS (student awards agency for Scotland) and i only get £11 per week for food so there are people on the dole that get more money and I have to pay it back
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Perhaps those of us who have made money from it, can lend money to those wishing to try it.
Easier of course if we had a microfinance site to do all of this from
I am afraid I would literally need someone here to show me how to do it. :think:
Hi,
Thanks to all for the new posts, and HHaddow990 for answering the question of initial investment.
The system I teach using an ebook, video tutorials and as much support you wish to ask for is all free, but you will need some of your own money to get going yes. Like HHaddow990 says £50 will get you started and considering you have the opportunity to make this very quickly into hundreds it's a genius little system that works 100%.
I did offer to help surbitonpete but he hasn't got back to me about the offer or explained where exactly he has ran adrift with the system, so I can't help what I don't understand unfortunately. If anybody has any problems, just PM me, message me through the site or post on here and I'll get on the case for you. It's a bit frustrating if I don't know why people can't follow the system if not explained.
As stated I don't just explain the system and leave you to figure it, I give videos as well as tools to do the job. It's there for any ZG member, just PM me and start earning some TAX free cash. It's my two fingers to the establishment, I invite you all to take advantage.
Ryan Phillips
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Sorry I havent gotten back to you Ryan.....I just haven't been thinking much about it, I am having trouble with the dole....they keep on calling me in for meetings with an 'advisor' and threatening to stop my payments.
They say I am not keeping to my 'contract' of applying for at least four jobs a week......which I admit I am not doing because I simply can't 'find' that many vacancies a week to apply for (unless I start applying for the jobs I can't do lol). I am afraid it's all getting very depressing and it's making it so hard for me to concentrate on anything.
You never need to apologise to me Pete, it sounds like you're doing your best to cope let alone learn something new. I just wasn't sure why you hadn't told me the bits you were stuck on so I could get you going making some extra cash.
When you feel you can focus again, if you want me to talk you through it on the phone, web cam, or even meet up and do what you said, sit next to you and walk you through it step by step. Just give me the nod if you want to.
My one motivation is to help people who feel the same as me about the world create some financial leverage, and help fund any activist projects. I'm working on making some other systems I use daily, once I've recorded the training material I will make these available to ZG members free of charge also.
I genuinely hope things start looking up for you.
Ryan Phillips
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hey there,
i have to say i am interested in ur system and am glad u are willing to share it with like minded people.
i know it would help me out as i am in a similar situation with the dole wanting me to get a job when there aren't any.
When i was on the dole i got ~£55 Job Seekers Alowance and ~£69 Housing Benifit (so thats ~£119), rent is £75 so that was ~£50 per week after rent and 20 to 30 after food
I am now living of saas with £380 (260 of which is a loan and the other 150 is my "perental contribution") per month thats £87.39 per week after rent is £12.39 and is -7 to -17 pounds per week so you can start this after 2-3 weeks, I cannot
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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Hello,
Good to hear from you.
I'd be pleased to help you out, I'll send you a personal message with login details and instructions.
Kindest Regards
Ryan Phillips
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Hi,
I understand you are on a low income as you are a student and your finances are very low, you explained this some time back. You are exactly right, initially you need a small amount of money which allows you to make more money with that money totally risk free.
The system is a gift to all Zeitgeist members though because it is there to use when people can actually use it. It works 100% and not many people can say this about any other money making system.
What I cannot do is actually create money out of think air to help you get started with the system. At least once your financial situation changes for the better and you have some spare money, you know you can use my system to create some additional financial leverage for yourself at that time. This has to be a positive.
In the meantime I totally understand this is something you cannot take advantage of just yet, but what you said in a previous post was correct, you literally just need about £50 to get started. Not paid to me, as I never charge ZG members for this system, but for your own initial no risk investment.
It's very simple, and I am here to help anyone who has about £50 to get going and is a ZG member.
Ryan Phillips
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Its a pity we aren't allowed to lend money to each other, as I see elsewhere on the site people are quite willing to throw so far $200 towards buying some DVD's to give away.
If anyone wants to go that route, your more than welcome to do so on my forum, so we don't pollute this one with none-Z allowed functions.
Fair comment, I think eventually what I would like to do is set up a fund to help projects, or even to produce more DVD's.
The only stumbling bloke with the system I'm helping people use on this thread is you need at least about £50 to get started, and what I've found in a few cases is some people don't even have that. It's a shame, although when they do have it the system will benefit them, it may prohibit some immediate action taking place, or even somebody being reached in time who needs it.
I need to ensure a fund would be done fairly and ethically to get people started. I will investigate your forum and continue to work on ideas, thanks.
In addition I've been asked about the things I currently do to escape the day job, and I am currently putting together a training video series and ebook for this. It's something I may consider training people to do over a webinar, but it is on the way and will I hope make a big difference helping people unplug from the mainstream.
Thanks again, good thoughts.
Ryan Phillips
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> I think eventually what I would like to do is set up a
> fund to help projects
I would support that. (Though your probably find as I did, much hostility towards such an idea here sadly, and its something like offical Zeitgeist policy as well to only use it towards things like DVD's, rather than towards things like building your own home.)
Though things might have softened a bit here, as shown by you being allowed to help us (Which is great!), either that or no ones noticed!
I agree with you again, and feel that as long as we are living in a monetary system how can it be wrong to help people financially who want to support the Zeitgeist movement. By supporting each other we show unity without leaders governing us, and help build a strong community of activists. As you say being able to have a home with an internet connection to get involved in the first place, or even have somewhere to go and watch the DVD's get educated etc is essential.
Without a doubt I believe everyone of us involved with Zeitgeist would discard our money and way of life for The Venus Project in a split second. Times are so hard for people right now though, which is no surprise, that any kind of financial leverage to use to just exist or to use to fund projects I feel should be welcomed and not blocked.
To block any financial assistance for any Zeitgeist Movement project or to help a fellow member while we are all bound by money is almost like saying keep the faith, live by a set of rules, which sounds a lot like everything Zeitgeist is against.
We should all unite and help each other, if that means setting up houses to help people to live and get involved in the movement, then it needs to happen. In fact whatever needs to be done in a non violent way to shake the parasitic oligarchy from ruining our world before it's too late needs to be done, and that's not my opinion, that's a fact.
I actually had permission to put my post up. I had to debate my rational behind it, but Dane was very helpful and agreed that it would be interesting to gauge the response. Your comments re enforce my motivation for helping Zeitgeist members in making money to make a difference.
Thanks again, good to hear from you.
Ryan Phillips
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Good to hear Dane is still a driving force around here, I was worried we wouldn't see much of him anymore, as I think he does a good job at keeping a level head on matters, and rather miss his input.
hi ryan,
thanks for sharing this cash raising idea of yours. this could really help me out as currently I'm unemployed but want to buy into a car-share with some friends and sadly I'm lacking the funds required. hope you can send me a login for your site so I can get started soon.
thanking you in advance :thumbup:
c
...condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance...
Hi zerohype,
I've started,
Come 5.15 tomorrow we'll know if it works.....
Hi Auxpin,
Good to hear from you.
I will ping you a private message with your login info and you can get started, I hope it helps.
Regards
Ryan Phillips
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I've started,
Come 5.15 tomorrow we'll know if it works.....
Hi Ecoprophet,
I was wondering how you were getting on. Is this your first free bet trade? If you've followed my advice whatever event you've free traded on, your profit will be waiting for you win or lose tomorrow at 5.15. Let it be the first of many, I hope your tax free cash helps.
For many reasons I enjoy exploiting any genuine loophole in the system. I hope you carry on and make as much as possible. Keep me posted and I'm always on hand for advice, you can email me direct through the website.
Regards
Ryan Phillips
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Hi Auxpin,
Good to hear from you.
I will ping you a private message with your login info and you can get started, I hope it helps.
Regards
Hi Ryan
thanks for the info, I will investigate the website and info later today & tomorrow, thank you brother
cheers
c.
...condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance...
The game was a draw and I lost 16 pound... wtf?
Hi,
Firstly I'd just like to say, if you lost money then you haven't done what I instructed you to do in the ebook, videos etc. I've never had anybody complain of losing money, so it's a fact you must have done something different to what I am teaching you to do.
What did you do, please explain? As in what match, what did you do to headge, odds, what bookie, and what where the odds both on the bookie and betfair when you placed your free trade with your free money?
It's obviously hard to answer when I haven't a clue how you managed to lose money. I'm sorry for you that you did lose money, but I know for a fact if you followed my system you can't lose a penny.
I think if you got the system that wrong you should email me directly and your next free trade I should check on my side before you actually do anything so you get it right and you can go earn the free money I want you to earn, yes?
Regards
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Ryan Phillips
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Hi Ryan
thanks for the info, I will investigate the website and info later today & tomorrow, thank you brother
cheers
c.
Hi,
No problem at all. Ecoprophet who has managed to lose money some how would make me urge you to contact me with any questions before you get started unless everything is crystal clear 100%.
It's impossible to lose money with this system you see, so eco must have done something totally different and not understood it unfortunately. I always offer my advice if in doubt, so please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any doubts or questions.
Regards
Ryan Phillips
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This does look very nice, and almost one of those to good to be true things.
I'd like to have a look at your system to see what its all about, but I won't actually use it to gain money just yet.
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Let us know what happened soon please ecoprophet, did you follow some kind of instructions and did you make an outright loss?
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Has no-one seen the 5-page hoax here?
I theorise that zerohype profits from this garbage. I'm also pretty sure that scamming bookies in this manner is, in fact, illegal.
Has anyone else on here made a profit? Someone that's not a newbie or a junior member or encouraging people to be greedy, please respond.
Sorry a "junior member" here
At first i was suspicious as well but there is no way zerohype can profit from this beyond the £15 membership fee that we don't have to pay
As for scamming the bookies you are not breaking any law nor are you in any contract with them. In fact they are trying to scam you the "£25 free bet" and the "deals" like it which are designed to get you addicted to their site
All that you do you only play in such a way you lose £0-2 by hedging (making a bet on one site and a lay (bet to lose) on another) and receive the free £25+ then you make that money available to withdraw through another hedge
Although i haven't done it in practice (i dot have the funds) but I'm very good a maths and the only way you could lose your money is through carelessness
Just like everyone here I despise the monetary system but for the moment we need money to survive at least by doing this we don't contribute to the wealth of billionaires and trillionaires
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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> there is no way zerohype can profit from this
Actually there is..
But I wouldn't worry about, as its fairly easy to avoid using their affiliation links and just going direct yourself. But then, if they really are helping you to get some free money, the least you can do is to return the favour back.
I've yet to spend much time to report back on the whole thing, been spending far too much time trying to find a job! (Girlfriend found one and started today, so at least we aren't facing being homeless, but there are still bills that need paying..)
On the plus side, usually people out to scam others are not so keen to discuss things with folk and talk in public, so its low on my scam radar detector, but obviously would be nice to get some feedback from someone whose tried it that one of us might know/trust/etc.
If someones willing to hold the hat that we can agree on, I'm willing to throw in £5 so we can get the likes of HHaddow990 whose good at maths to dip their toe in the water and find out for the rest of us.
I might suggest something like, raise £50 from people throwing in a £5 each, lend it, if you make money, give back double, repeat..
I realise then we might argue about what to do with money we are making, but that might be better than having none at all to argue about
Thats a whole fiver I'm willing to donate, not expect back, want to see it used to help others make money, hope it encourages a few other folk to fill the hat up as well.. (I might nominate someone like 'Walk in Beauty' to hold the hat myself, if they was interested/etc.)
I wouldn't mind putting £5 into it to see how it turns out and to help.
I might suggest something like, raise £50 from people throwing in a £5 each, lend it, if you make money, give back double, repeat..
I realise then we might argue about what to do with money we are making, but that might be better than having none at all to argue about
Thats a whole fiver I'm willing to donate, not expect back, want to see it used to help others make money, hope it encourages a few other folk to fill the hat up as well.. (I might nominate someone like 'Walk in Beauty' to hold the hat myself, if they was interested/etc.)
Sounds like a good idea to me ..I would join in with you on that Nanos.
HHaddow990 seems to have a bit of gambling knowledge.
this system is too limited for that, as you can only do this only once per bookie without going into the legally gray area of multiple accounts and identities
If you don't agree comment, suggest and discuss
"to understand is to transform what is" Jiddu Krishnamurti
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